[Random]

So, I have seen prob. the most noob weapon combination, have been killed tons of time with it, USAS12+FRAG.

They just spray it everywhere, getting tons of kills!

I was in a good squad, attacking, and 2 guys more. We armed a MCOM and started to defense it. Then one guy with usas12+frag came in, and killed us all easily..

Do you think this weapon is overpowered? Do you have any experiences with it?

Not my video, but good example:

[HARRO PREAS3]

i really don't know why they included a fully auto shotgun... i don't see a way in which it couldn't seriously annoy people. even perfectly legitimate kills... still feels like the person is trolling you while shooting.

[Random]

HARRO PREAS3, on 27 November 2011 - 07:00 PM, said:

i really don't know why they included a fully auto shotgun... i don't see a way in which it couldn't seriously annoy people. even perfectly legitimate kills... still feels like the person is trolling you while shooting.

I ok with normal usas12. but combined with frag rounds it's really a trolling weapon..

[Sebastos]

Yeah looks nubbish to me..

[scopedghost]

i dont mind it never used it tho

[StupidDeep]

I use the 870 i can kill them before they get in range of me. What does piss me off about frag rounds; they do good damage to humvees and vodnicks which isn't cool.

[TheWrongPlayer]

I rock the M26.


I'm no hipster, I just give it some love it deserves.

But I've seen that video, and by putting FRAG rounds on, it doesn't increase damage. It negatively affects it just like all the other shotguns. This just gives it a cool explosion.

Edited by HardcoreHobo, 28 November 2011 - 05:16 AM.

[Demizer]

everyone uses it now. its getting annoying.

[furaii]

Not everyone uses it, since its actually a pretty high unlock. The last day or so though I have seen a tonne of people using it and in operation metro especially it is FAR too powerful. In choke points where both teams are kinda stuck and the odd person popping out gets owned making it a very tactical part of the game requireing teamwork, this is ruined by 1 person running in with a usas and killing the entire other team on one pop out of cover, this has happened to me a few times now and is proof this isn't just powerful it IS overpowered.

Since its a high unlock I think we might see more and more complaints about it and hopfully a small nerf (all that's required to not make it useless)

[Cadde]

It might decrease the damage when using them but i have been SNIPED by a shotgun user with IRNV+12g frag equipped... And each shot does more damage than a bullet and each shot has a small splash radius.
The USAS with frag rounds it nothing more than an automatic grenade launcher that you can use for pretty much anything. The only reason i don't use shotguns is because i can't be arsed to unlock the 12g frag rounds and if i ever would do that i would probably feel very cheap using them.

[PotatoFury]

i used it with frag and yes it is cheap like cadde said its basically a automatic grenade launcher

[Flowhawk]

troll gun

[illuknisaa]

frag usas is not op it's just a fun gun. You need 3-4 shots to kill people in a normal shotgun range (870 takes 1). And no it's not more damaging than normal usas. Frag usas' effectiviness is based on suppressive effects of frag rounds. When you are getting shot by normal rounds you think: "hey somebody is shooting at me, lets shoot him back" when somebody shoots with frags you think "OMG ITS LAV RUN!!!!". The gun simply scares you so much that you just freeze. Frag rounds are also dangerous to their user. Shoot too close to a wall and die.

[lpau001]

Yea I gotta say the gun is powerful, but its really not a big deal. The range isn't amazing (deservedly so) so it's easy to counter for the most part. My squadmate was rocking it yesterday on grand bazaar and doing ok, but we had them spawn camped so it wasn't hard to do well.. I did notice he got a lot of doubles and triples on the kill feed during the game..

Meh. you deserve to die if you run into a shotgun at close range. That's why they make shotguns.

[vani]

[MrAraujo]

vani, on 29 November 2011 - 06:44 PM, said:

And after this, people does not believe that 30kills/0 deaths is possible within a round. \o/
"IRNV scope unlocked"

[ABATTLEDONKEY]

Good analysis Illuk. ins order to get kills consistently with the USAS you must be within a pretty good range. Accuracy is horrible, especially on full auto. frag rounds are WEAKER than buchshot and slugs, but have a huge supressive effect. the reason that video looked like a "noob" (fuck i hate that word) is because the fag using it was in non-hardcore and hipfiring the whole time, and almost the entire time at a close enough range that an 870 would have killed him no prob. ( assuming he could see). USAS w/ frag is a powerful weapon no doubt, but no so powerful that it cant be countered.

[Splotch]

Do not play metro on HC. First 7 deaths earlier on were from 12g frag rounds. They were everywhere throughout the round

[Killophile]

I never used it, I got killed by it once in total, I don't really mind it, although it seems like it's pretty annoying to get killed by it frequently.

[blackdeath4u]

I use it on OP: Metro because the close walls make it wicked. Add squad supression and enemies cant see shit to shoot back.

Assault, usas12 and frag, tac light or ext mag, smoke on the m320..... you got yourself a kit that gets close to the action, provides cover for revives, suppresses the hell out of everything..... a good setup, especially when you got a good squad that throws ammo and has squad ammo.... cause that thing eats through it.